This week on No Meat Athlete Radio, we’re doing something a little different.

Instead of me doing the interviewing (or shooting the breeze with Doug), I’m the one being interviewed — by my friend and fellow vegan runner and “big goals” advocate Nicole Antoinette.

This interview was first published on Nicole’s popular podcast, Real Talk Radio, and she was kind enough to let me rebroadcast it on our show.

It’s a long one, nearly two hours in length, but one of my favorite interviews that I’ve done, which is why I chose to share it. Nicole and I dig deep into a lot of topics — and not just the typical running and diet stuff, but a more personal discussion of achievement, failure, and the messy reality that setting big, ambitious goals.

I hope you enjoy this one as much as I did! Big thanks to Nicole for doing the interview and letting me share it; be sure to check out Real Talk Radio for lots more conversations like it.

Click the button below to listen now: